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Posted in general on March 31st, 2005

1. I need to understand this line of thinking…

You say that Terri is now with the Lord, “a much better place”, yet you say you are sad. For what? That Terri is now with the Lord in a much better place? You would rather she suffer the rest of her life in the state she was in?

I’m trying to understand why millions of people are so engrosed with one person when many many people are being killed in Iraq. Both our soldiers and Iraqi civilians.

Plus, where were all these millions when the 6 month old baby was “murdered” in Texas not long ago.

Personally, Terri and her situation is none of my business, not to mention the business of the millions of people that is making her their business including all the media that is making money off her situation.

Comment by Dave M. — 3/31/2005 @ 4:17 pm | Edit This
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3. Dave,
First of all, if Terri is none of your business, then why are you making my grief your business?

Secondly, her husband caused her suffering by all his efforts to kill her. That’s what I wanted stopped. If she had received the care she needed from those who loved her self-LESS-ly, she would have been blessed and would have continued to bless others. With proper care, she wouldn’t have been suffering.

Nonetheless, you may not be able to understand. I am sad that we failed to save Terri - that we (Americans) have failed to save so many from horrible murders all over the world. That we in America are so damn selfish as to impose our own highfalutin’ opinion on someone else’s “quality” of life just because its uncomfortable to look at and because were too damn lazy and narcissistic to GIVE of our own time and energy to care properly for others. A person’s quality of life is more dependent on the relationships in his/her life than it is on his/her physical or mental capabilities. Ultimately, we each have an equal value, no matter what condition we are in, just by virtue of being made in the image of God. And since He is the Author, the Giver, the Creator, the Source of that life, it is not our place to ever end it by our own design. You may not understand this, but we are not our own.

For once we had a wide screen opportunity to change. I think the reason so many people got involved about Terri is that it came to our attention via collaboration of the internet and it was something in which people thought they might be able to make a difference. But I think with her death we are seeing how far the collective soul of America has fallen. When people and our judicial leaders become so callused to suffering and death that they embrace and choose death, rather than fighting and sacrificing time, effort and money for life, that is worse than sad. It’s insane. That is why I grieve.

As for the Iraq thing, every one of those soldiers volunteered to be there with their eyes wide open. They are saints and heroes and I will not belittle what they have done for the Iraqi people. Don’t Vietnam them. They deserve our respect and thanks, nothing less. Sadaam and his sons diabolically tortured and slaughtered many more than will ever die in this war. Plus, your numbers include all those insurgents and their own innocent fellow Iraqis they have taken with them. They would do what they’re doing whether the Armed Forces were there or not. And under Sadaam or any other tyrant it would be 100 times worse.

Comment by patsy — 3/31/2005 @ 7:55 pm | Edit This

God have mercy on US

Posted in general on March 31st, 2005

Terri has died. I weep - not for Terri - she is with the Lord now, a much better place. I weep for US. How we failed her and so many others, young and old, who have suffered such murderous ends to their lives. Please God, grant US hearts of repentance. Help US turn around…

for intercessors II

Posted in general on March 29th, 2005

Isaiah 28

“See, I lay a stone in Zion,

a tested stone,

a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation;

the one who trusts will never be dismayed.

17 I will make justice the measuring line

and righteousness the plumb line;

hail will sweep away your refuge, the lie,

and water will overflow your hiding place.

18 Your covenant with death will be annulled;

your agreement with the grave will not stand.

I Corinthians 1

27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28He chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things - and the things that are not - to nullify the things that are, 29so that no one may boast before Him.

Free Speech and then off to jail

Posted in general on March 27th, 2005

At this point there is very little that I can add that can comfort these men, Terri’s family, Terri herself or even myself. I lift us all up to the Lord. The words below speak volumes…

Our First Arrest

A long hot day. We thirst, and fear for Terri whose thirst in unquenchable, except by the Spirit and power of God.

Well, we’ve resolved the dilemma of arrest, at least one of us has. My partner here, David Curell, pastor of Church of the Good Shepherd together with Tim, was just arrested after reading the following statement (in outline form as David wrote it):

Been here for 8 days

Much talk about:

—Courts, quality of life, law, state officials, federal officials

One thing overshadows all

—As a nation we are watching the court sanctioned killing of an innocent woman

—I thought the killing of the innocent was wrong

I am ashamed of our leaders

—Everyone has worked hard to cover themselves.

—The judges say they are following the law.

—The legislators say that they are thwarted by the judges.

—The executive leaders rattle their sabers and wring their hands.

Trust me

—All of you politicians, judges, leaders who are men, if Terri were your daughter you would have done considerably more.

I am ashamed of America.

—I often hear of how great our nation is, but I don’t think most Americans even care to find out if this event is significant. We just wish something else were on TV.

—Makes me wonder who really is in the persistent vegetative state.

I am most ashamed of those who claim to be the Church of Jesus Christ. We who have as our heritage both the theology for life and the history of those faithful who have been very inconvenienced for the sake of the marginal in our world.

—Where are you, pastors, priests, elders, deacons, fathers of families? Do you congregations and churches know the plight of this woman or what is at stake in this battle.

I am a father, not acting with Mr. Schindler’s permission, but offering myself as his proxy. I will be arrested for his sake as a father.

Please pray now for David. He has left for jail in the sheriff’s van.

As for the saints who are in the land…

Posted in general on March 26th, 2005

they are the glorious ones in whom is all my delight. Psalm 16:3

From baylyblog today:

Very soon now there will be a large number of arrests. Please understand me when I say that, were one of my daughters in Woodside Hospice being slowly executed by the civil authority, I would either have liberated that daughter from her imprisonment, or I would be in jail.

Read the rest.

Stop the Cheesianity

Posted in general on March 25th, 2005

This stuff with Terri is bringing out the cheese and I must say something that’s been on my heart long before all this.

Ok, say we’re all on the Titantic and it’s sinking. But this time there are enough life boats for everyone. But some people are afraid of life boats. Some people hate life boats. So instead of calmly helping all people into a life boat, one way or another earning their trust and bringing them into the boat, we yell at them and tell them they weren’t good enough and that the Commander of the rescue team on the horizon hates them anyway. Or we ignore them and just pontificate from afar. Smugly, we let them go down with the ship as we enjoy an nice spacious ride each in our own little exclusive life boat.

American Christians KNOCK IT OFF! Wake up! This is not who God is!!! And if you think it is, you are really on your own personal Titantic!

Please have mercy, beg God for mercy and pray for this nation and its leaders.

Please do not quote God’s judgements especially when you don’t even know where it comes from or how it came about. We are so quick to condemn the people HE DIED FOR. He did not and does not dole out judgements lightly or nearly half as much as we do. Please do not condemn your neighbors - God can handle them and He wants your help, not your opinion.

Stop listening to the MSM. “Whatever % of Americans say…” Since when should we believe or trust MSM polls or information, much less make doctrine out of them? The MSM is one of the enemy’s greatest smoke screens. It’s like saying, “the enemy says…” and using it to support your defense of God. Brilliant.

Enough already with the threat of end time left out-ness. We’re not on the kindergarten playground. We’re supposed to GROW UP from that. If Jesus didn’t even know the time of His return, how can we?

Mark 13:32 “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 33Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come.”

Knowing the time isn’t the point of being a Christian. Knowing HIM is.

None of us should be happy about the decline and destruction of our nation. We should all be weeping, repenting and rescuing, because, ultimately, when someone stands up in a life boat to taunt or gloat…

They tip over.

For Intercessors I

Posted in general on March 24th, 2005

I don’t know much about Dutch Sheets, but this comes from 2 dear friends that I trust and it resonates with the core of my prayers, especially the Esther part (see post below) and the repentance part and the not turning to the courts part; well, all of it, I guess.

A Prayer Directive for the Body of Christ, from Dutch Sheets, Concerning Terri Schiavo by Dutch Sheets…

Read the rest of this entry »

The WHOLE Terri Schiavo story

Posted in general on March 24th, 2005

From beginning to …?

Posted in general on March 24th, 2005

I am at a loss for words these days - my emotions have overcome and are short-circuiting the cooperation of the left side of my brain. All I can do is pray and weep. Therefore I will continue to clip from others who still have their wits about them. Suzanne from Labosseuse:

If Terri Schiavo dies…, it will change the world as we know it. In the same way that my grandpa’s death marked the passing of great good, Terri’s death will mark the passing of a similarly great good: the respect for the sanctity of life. If we can murder an innocent woman with so many doubts, and our judicial system is willing to kill her without any thought to the consequences and implications of their actions, where will we end up in the debate for life versus death in another 20 years?

We’re not in Hollywood anymore

Posted in general on March 24th, 2005

from baylyblog in Florida at the hospice,

People here are tired of the attempts at political action. The only hope now and always is the strong arm of God. Supporters of Terri increasingly realize this. They are tired of political promises. It would be better if those in power simply declared their desire for Terri to die. Most here would find an announcement by Jeb Bush that he will do nothing preferable to this lingering death of hope.

This is the fallen planet we live on. This is why we so desperately need Easter.

tonight at the hospice

Posted in general on March 23rd, 2005

from baylyblog tonight

Singing Down the Foe

(posted by Matthew French)
I just spoke with David by telephone. He said that the scene outside the hospice is extremely intense! He provides the following update:

Pinellas Park police have blockaded 62nd street with police cars. This step has been taken Fox News reports to prevent Florida DCFS from coming to remove Terri.

Meanwhile at the site, Mr. Schindler just came out of the hospice. He walked through the crowd thanking the two hundred demonstrators at the site. After walking through demonstrators on the west side of the hospice gate he walked through the demonstrators on the east side. We, knowing that Mr. Schindler was out in the crowd had been singing hymns of the Christian faith to drown out a demonstrator crying “Let her die.” We sang Were You There, Amazing Grace and Jesus Loves Me. But when Mr. Schindler came to our side of the crowd, the song we were singing was the Ave Maria. So with Protestants in the crowd not knowing the words, we hummed along at a shouting pitch. Mr. Schindler came through our part of the crowd, walking within five feet of the man shouting, “Let her die.” As the crowd hummed and sang Ave Maria, Mr. Schindler walked around to the other side of the street saying “bless you” to all of the protesters. When he saw the anti-Terri demonstrator, he turned from four feet away, looked at him and said, “And bless you too.”

for such a time as this

Posted in general on March 23rd, 2005

Chana exhorts us all to be as Esther today…

The significance of this [the book of Esther] is not lost to me as it relates to the Schiavo case, the result of which will affect the disabled community, and all people…

Like Esther, each of us has been placed in a unique position so that we can help bring good out of even the most evil of situations. God only asks that we do our part. Ultimately, He takes care of the rest.

You can read the rest of her post here.

If only Terri was…

Posted in general on March 22nd, 2005

a cow in Florida.

Do you use your blog…

Posted in general on March 22nd, 2005

for good or for awesome?

If you in any way sympathize with Terri Schindler Schiavo’s situation, please add a post or link in support of her life. Please help broaden the scope of accurate information about her situation. And please, above all, keep her, her family, legal advisors (and yes, her husband, his lawyers) and judges in prayer. This situation will affect us all.

Links:

blogs for Terri - keeps bloggers updated with the moment by moment details
Terri’s Fight - site of Terri Schindler Schiavo foundation with all legal, medical documents, etc.
Fight 4 Terri - registered nurse and friend of Terri’s family
The Empire Journal - New York based journalism site that is investigating exposing the injustices of Terri’s case
Out of our minds, too - Tim and David Bayly at the Hospice in Florida
Becki Snow - hunger strike protestor in Florida on Terri’s behalf
Straight up with Sherri - rallying for Terri in Georgia

Good links and a little mental break

Posted in general on March 22nd, 2005

This is a good post. Having been dragged through court twice against my will, I really understand what he means by “The problem here is that courts are terrible places to resolve these issues.” Terri’s situation is legally/politically a nightmare, a mess that should never have happened. Only God is able to get her out of there, so keep praying…

I also really like this link Hedgehog likes, because on a lighter note (and we all need one these days), Doug knows where all our missing socks are.

A completely tilted planet II

Posted in general on March 22nd, 2005

Suzanne lead me to this,

The fact that you no longer wanted Laci did not give you the right to murder her,” Sharon Rocha said. “She was my daughter … I trusted you, and you betrayed me … You betrayed everybody.

Someone explain WHY Terri’s parents can’t say the same thing and receive the same justice? Or do they have to wait unitl she’s dead?

An additional thought along the same lines at Nathan’s blog,

Lacy and Conner Peterson cry out telling us that husbands obviously do not always have their wives best interests at heart.

Why can’t the WHOLE WORLD see that in Terri’s case?

uS

Posted in general on March 22nd, 2005

God, have mercy on us.
God, forgive us.
Bring us to repentance.
Help us turn around.
Wake us up before its too late.
Pour Your Holy Spirit upon us.
Cleanse us, free us, raise us up.
Let us stand for Life, not death.
Let us stand for Truth, not lies.
Let us be humble, not proud.
Let us be broken.
God, forgive us.

Incoming!

Posted in general on March 21st, 2005

An excellent article concerning Dr.Ronald Cranford who will be interviewed on FOX tomorrow night in pursuit of Terri’s death.

Crying out to God

Posted in general on March 21st, 2005

Hear O Lord my righteous plea
listen to my cry
give ear to my prayer
it does not rise from deceitful lips
may my vindication come from You
may Your eyes see what is right

I call on You O God
for You will answer me
give ear to me and hear my prayer
show the wonder of Your great love
You who save by Your right hand
those who take refuge in You from their foes

Keep me as the apple of your eye
hide me in the shadow of Your wings
from the wicked who assail me
from my mortal enemies who surround me

They close up their callous hearts
and their mouths speak with arrogance
they have tracked me down
they now surround me
with eyes alert to throw me to the ground

Rise up O Lord
confront them
bring them down
rescue me from the wicked by Your sword (Truth)
O Lord, by Your hand
save me from such men
from men of this world
whose reward is in this life

You still the hunger of those You cherish…

and I - in righteousness I will see Your face
when I awake, I will be satisfied
with seeing Your likeness.

Psalm 17

O Lord, Our eyes are upon You

Posted in general on March 21st, 2005

from baylyblog in Florida:

Schindler family attorney David Gibbs is urging supporters of Terri to attend the 3:00 hearing at Tampa Bay’s Federal Courthouse. We will be going there, but there have been far fewer supporters of Terri at the hospice site than police aniticipated and there are very few here this morning. Randall Terry continues to tell the press that many supporters are converging from across the country and that this area will soon be inundated with pro-Terri activists. The press is privately scornful of these claims, and, I’m afraid, rightfully so.

By faith we have the avenue of greatest power at our disposal. Will you join us in prayer to God the Father Almighty for Terri and the Schindler family? Those who cannot be here in person, you can join us in prayer if you know Christ as Saviour?

Read the whole post here and please keep this whole issue before the Lord, for our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms… (Ephesians 6:12)